How Outsourcing Should Work For You

Hi John,

how good are these folks from Philippines with regards to writing the ACTUAL content for the blogs, squidoo’s and mini-nets?

Please let me know.

I mean can I really just teach them the strategy on how to create a cluster of minisites/blogs and they will be able to write the content, promote and get links etc?

Thanks,

Abhik

John
Thanks to you and Jim Cockrum for all the great info you guys put out .
I just hired my guy in the Philippines to design a web site for a realtor.Looks like a 2500 profit for me !

Just one thing i wanted to say !Nothin against Frank Kern and the big time gurus and their launches that are going on right now . But i believe they have lost sight of the masses of people that just don’t have the 1997 sitting in their bank accounts . i will keep reading their free stuff and buying and learning from you and Jim.

Kindest Regards
Frank

Hi John,
I have been researching IM for 6 months now and have gained many sources of information. I started with Jim Cochrums site MST. I have Joels “Mini Sites” course and “Niche Profit Press” which is very good info. I also joined your site which I really enjoy. Im ready to start but feel like I dont quite know where to start. If you could help with some suggestions I would appreciate it very much. I have purchased domains and hosting and FTP so I am set up. I just need to do niche research which Ive been avoiding. That is pretty much where I stand at the moment.
Thanks, Brian
craftmanone@hotmail.com
(772)713-6364

He needs to study Revenge of the Mininets a little more, and Leslie’s Dynamic Linking
Recursive internal linking is also important.

Why do you keep putting GUY in all CAPS? Are you distinguishing men from women? Or something else? It seems like you do it on purpose for some reason….

Thanks!

@Abhik – Yes, they can write the content for those sites. They do it all for me!

@Andy – Thanks for the advice. I believe the internal linking is included in my training…He just didn’t include it in these graphics.

@Mike – I put GUYS in caps just for “branding”. That’s what I call my GUYS. It’s nothing sexist or to denote male vs female.

John

@Brian – Why not start at the beginning of one of those programs you have? Why not follow one of them from beginning to end? They went through stuff in step by step fashion for a reason. Step 1 is probably a good starting point.

John,

I recently purchased Joel’s Mini Site Formula and was wondering if your GUYs could successfully implement Joel’s mini site strategies from start to finish using your ReplaceMyself outsourcing resources.

If so, what would it take? How long would it take? and approximately how much would it cost to get a mini site business off the ground?

Honestly, I’m a bit slow when it comes to techie stuff and may need a hand getting things going.

Thanks for a reply,
rich s.

Hey John,

Would you give me a ballpark figure how much it would take to start Joel’s or your business model with outsourcing? Please include all costs that you would deem necessary and approximately how long would it take to get to a break even point. ( if that’s possible )

Thanks,
Wayne

To me, your post kinda proves the opposite – why have outsourced workforce that you need to control, manage, check on them and pay them when there are software tools doing just the same? Also, I have noticed Philippines have problems with logical order of things so definitely not the best choice for outsourcing.

how did you nail down the team[s] to work with and how did you figure out pricing?

John,

It is a great post which open up my eyes. I been following you for quite a long time. Just one question, what type of expertise do the GUYS have to plan and execute the plan ? Or it is done by a team ? I cant really seems to think a writer or web designer to do a marketing plan.

thank you

@Rich – Yes, my guys can definitely implement it. I would guess that for you, it will take 2 months of lead time and $1000 to get it going right. But that’s just a guess.

@Irish dude – 1. your comment doesn’t make a ton of sense.
2. You can’t have software doing what my guys do for me.
3. who’s managing your software? You?
4. Filipinos don’t have problems with logical orders. I think you outsourced to India.

@Jason – I nailed down my teams over time. I’ve been at this for over 3 years. For me it has been a process (like most businesses are). For pricing, we negotiated.

@Paul – my GUYS have had a lot of training. They are somewhat like me now. They understand some marketing. They understand some technical. They understand content. So, when I ask them for something, they can do it. Your people may not be this advanced at first, but over time they’ll get there.

Once again the great greed debate rear it’s ugly head. If everyone in the world is only concerned with how cheap they can get someone to do their work so that their profit margins are better, notice I didn’t say non-existant, just better, well then you are all just like the major banks who put our economy in toilet, greedy to the point of ignoring what’s going on around you in the society at large.

There are thousands of great developers in the US that have families and mortgages and bills just like the rest of you and many of them work at very reasonable rates. Not dirt cheap like someone from a foreign county, but reasonable.

If everyone goes overseas then you put all of those people out of work just so you can make an extra thousand or so in profits. Greed is the heart of the major problem that we find outselves in now and that’s all I see going on here. How can I make even more profit from my business by paying someone little or no money to do my work. It’s like hiring an illegal immigrant to do you yard work and thinking that it’s okay to pay them less than you would a normal landscaper.

It’s just not cool and to the extent that you are pushing this as the solution to all you financial problems you should be ashamed of yourself for being part of the ongoing problem rather than seeking a way for everyone to make a decent comfortable living rather than only being concerned about how much money you can make from someone elses life situation.

Steve (above) – dude, you clearly don’t get this.

The wages the folks are being paid is ridiculously low by U.S. standards, but it’s very competitive in the Philippines. These folks are living well off $500 a month or less.

And for some of us, it’s not about outsourcing oversees so we can greedily add another 2% to our bottom line. For me, it’s the only way I can afford to outsource right now, period. And if I don’t outsource some of this stuff off my lap, I’m only slowing my own progress as I run around trying to do everything myself.

It’s not greed…it’s necessity and wisdom.

So why not hop off that high horse you’re on, Steve? Maybe this isn’t the best fit for you, but don’t look down your nose at the rest of us for seeing how outsourcing at this level can be an accelerant to our business like nothing else can.

And don’t blame Jonas for opening our eyes to it and providing a dang awesome service.

…jp

I just wanted to follow up on Steve’s comment above that doesn’t like the idea of outsourcing.

The reason all company get in trouble and can not compete like General Motors and the like are because they don’t get outsourcing.

General motors actually have union contracts screwing them so they can stay competitive.

We live in the digital age now and have been doing so since about 1985…..

When you run a business you get your services from the least expensive source that does the best work.

It’s that simple, end of story. If you do not like it go work for someone else.

Nothing is fare in business.

To compete you have to be on a level playing field and the internet and outsourcing gives everyone a shot at competing!

This is how the global economy works!

Steven Barchetti

Your San Diego Real Estate Authority!

John,

I can only say that my Filipino writers get it!… They not only write better than me (I’m U.S.) -they get it done 5x’s as fast.

It is suggested, however, if you tend to be the ‘first-person’ with your writings (eg, specific genre on a blog) then you’ll probably want to edit. However, after you’ve edited a couple of times your Filipino writer will pick-up on your drift and ‘can’, indeed, become your first person.

All I can say is… it puts a smile on my face everytime an assignment gets carried out.

best,
-michael

My problem is this.. I was a member of this service. Hired 3 people from bestjobs.ph and was very disappointed.. One guy started and 2 days never heard from him again; others had internet issues.. And bottom line is when they showed me the work they were doing – it was taking WAY to long to do simple taks. I swear there is a course in the phillipenes on how to set up your ad and get easy money from Americans…

@Steve –
You said:
“rather than seeking a way for everyone to make a decent comfortable living”

I think you’re forgetting that the people in the Philippines are part of that “everyone.” They’re humans too. Should they not also have a “decent comfortable living?”

If I don’t provide it to them, who is going to?

I think you’re forgetting how good you have it here in the US.

If you think about it the way you’re talking, maybe you have a RESPONSIBILITY to outsource to the Philippines!
Or…is it only United States humans who have the right to the “decent comfortable living” you’re talking about?

John

The ramifications of trying to ‘hire’ a full-time employee or even a part-time employee here in the states can be many times over just a simple salary, even if the wages could be reasonable. Which in many cases make it cost prohibitive to have an employee. Most want at least medical and vacation, after which you add all the taxes associated with having an employee and it is a burden that many ’small’ business cannot endure.

Outsourcing through this ‘global’ economy alleviates many of those burdens, allowing some small businesses that didn’t have the option of expanding in that capacity to now make different choices geared towards growth and development.

If your company is writing of 60 billion in bad debt, then you are getting some breaks and even a TARP handout, but if your a small business you are going to have to go out and work smart for your growth and profits.

It has nothing to do with hiring Americans. If I could I would, but frankly, the Phillipines are better workers than many Americans I’ve worked with even on a freelance basis and with less of the ‘hassle’ of hiring here.

Andres.

Hi John,

Do you know what software was used to create those diagrams by any chance?

I love how Steve’s reply is like anonymous. “Don’t outsource you’re taking away jobs.”

Shame on you John!

The fact is an extra thousand isn’t even CLOSE to the profits one can put back into their business by outsourcing.

It’s cheaper, it’s more efficient, and spending less to make more, means your business is growing.

And you’re still feeding the family of *someone*

Call it unpatriotic cause they’re not in the USA, they do GREAT work, and they are extremely loyal.

This is a business.

If you ran a business that was struggling or going under because your payroll was too high, and your output sucked, even though you felt good about yourself because you were employing Americans, you’d still be a terrible business person.

And if the same was true and your business was the only thing that put food on the table for your family, you’d be an idiot.

It’s not just about a lower wage, it’s about better production, better loyalty, and faster output – which means more money coming in.

I started a business to provide for those around me, and in order to be successful I have to keep costs down and income growing.

And outsourcing is an extremely good way to do that.

Hi John,One of the posts above mentioned bestjobs.ph
when I went to sign up I got a message of
We regret to inform you, employer registrations are not currently allowed from your location.
If I do sign up with you am I going to have problems signing up with these folks in the phillipines.

I’ve been very interested in the outsourcing for awhile now. It’s been tough finding someone to do outsource work here in the U.S. As previously mentioned, most people want to know about the “bennies” before they even consider the work to be done.

I blame it on the typical “union” attitude compared to an “entrepenurial” attitude. This model helps people somewhere and gets a profitable, thriving business off the ground.

It’s time for the whiners to stop and start contributing,

I’ve been having some challenges with my outsourcers… seems like they go 1-3 days with no email contact, then say the power or internet was down in phillipines… is the power and internet down that much over there? or are they just blowing smoke?

Steve and all others with that attitude.

I highly suggest you read Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. You’ll quickly see what could come of this nation with an attitude like that.

Enough people like you coming together and getting the ear of a politician and the next thing you’ll see is our ability to outsource to cheaper, more loyal and potentially better employees disappear through some piece of ridiculous legislation.

That thought and attitude is totally disgusting.

John

Are you able to post a site/url that you own (as an example) so I can see the type and quality of work that is produced by your guys?

John,
I have been working with a Phillipine VA for a few months. She is sometimes out-of-touch and reports that that is due to the weather and her downed ISP. This was after the last typhoon that went through and destroyed parts of Taipai. So, as much as I might wonder, I have to accept that as fact. It is doubtful that she works full-time but she is doing SEO site registration that I don’t want to do. She is now discussing how to move to another level for submitting to content sharing sites so she is definitely on a learning curve.
With regards to the pay and out-sourcing. I had concerns about that as well. But after meeting 2 women that were from the Phillipines and talking with the husband of one of them, I feel that paying her $300 – $400/mo is adding to her bank account in a way not possible there. The comment was “whatever you are paying her is far more than she could earn there.” This is a global economy.
My question is this: Does it take 2 weeks to set up site registration with the search engines? ANd if there are going to be squeeze pages set up then will those have to be registered? The idea of the mini-nets makes sense to me. I lack the knowledge to train for this so what would be my next step? Check out http://www.musclerepairshop.com as this is the primary site we are trying to drive traffic to. We are ahead of the curve regarding the social networking. That is not a problem. Where do we go from here?

My wife is from the Philippines. She graduated from a business college. Then she was able to get a working contract with a government office for approximately $180.00 per month. Most work contracts are good for about 6 months there; and then they move on – no job security. Many families will save up to send one of their children overseas to find a job that might pay $500.00/mo with the expectation that much of this pay will be returned to the Phil. My wife worked in Bahrain and then in Hong Kong where I met her. If people can make $500.00 and still be near their family, I would think that would be great.

The cost of food in the Phil is even more expensive than food here in the States. They survive by growing their own food. Many have a family farm somewhere where they grow rice or have fruit trees like mangos or coconut, etc.. Very few people have personal automobiles. Most people travel by bus, or jeepney, or tricycle, or even horse and carriage.

Cost of utilities are just as expensive as in the US. Internet is much more expensive. For a 1.5 kbps broadband connection you would pay about $48.00 USD/mo. And 3 kbps service would be double. For decent broadband at 5+ kbps you would pay about $200.00 USD/mo.

Most people do not have their own computer. And those that do may not have their own internet access. Most people use internet shops for their internet needs.

Power outages are a problem. Internet outages are also a problem but are getting much better.

Communication: Communication can be a problem; however, US English is the business language in the Phil. but most people have another language as their first language and then also have other dialects that they must be familiar with based on their location within the Phil. There are upwards of 50 or so dialects in the Phil. It is amazing – their language abilities. But this does cause their spoken language to be somewhat broken – and writing skills are the same. It takes a talented individual to overcome this.

Honor: There appears to be a system of honor in the Phil. It is my impression that the People of the Phil strive to be honorable. For me, I find little honor in the US today.

As to US Economic Problems today: In this I agree with Steve. How can anyone expect to send our factories and the jobs associated with them out of the US; and, as well, other office facilities, call centers, etc.; and still maintain the same standard of living in the US. Answer: you CANNOT. And then to have Congress and the Executive branch to promote free trade between countries therefore making the US a consumer oriented country. Add to this illegals working in the US. And add to this an incredible amount of money creation for welfare and social programs where ever in the world thereby devaluing the USD; and you have serious economic problems and very high competition for what low paying jobs are left. Add to that the fact that the executive branch uses improper and illegal tactics (deprivation of rights (due process), fraud, etc.)to collect a tax (income tax) from people who, legally, are not liable thereto for their right to labor and provide for their family; and you have one conclusion — The American people are definitely getting the shaft. And I believe we will soon see a third world environment here in the US. Maybe then the work ethic will change.

Blessings in truth,
Dave

Heard your interview on IBM and read your blog. I find your use of the term GUYS as demeaning to: 1) women and 2) objectifying your employees in the Phillipines. Aren’t they your employees? Or your staff? Or people? Please stop implying that only men can do this work. You’ll get farther this way when women aren’t insulted, even if it’s just a lack of awareness on your part. Thanks.

Connie

Where I come from, people always say you guys including the males and females. It’s just an expression that you obviously have a hangup with. There is no need to start a feminist movement because you feel offended. If you don’t like it, then simply don’t bother posting or get a life.

As a member of ReplaceMyself.com you’ll get access to the BestJobs.ph resumes and contact info. It will be super easy once you’re inside.

John

@Adam – yes, it was Gliffy: Gliffy.com

@Tom – the only way I know of to currently get access to BestJobs.ph is through being a member of ReplaceMyself.com

Good job!

I am in my second week with my first GUY and results are….It is challenging to keep him communicating (and me to him) clearly because of the time delay. I also tried to register him for myproject but he was already registered. I asked him about this, so far no response from him.
How do you suggest dealing with communication and accountability? I did ask for daily reports, but get them ever other day. Perhaps I need to go back to the start and hire someone else….
I really like your replacemyself service so far. Once I can get a good GUY secured I am confident that they can get their baseline knowledge in IM there.
Thanks John!

Jeromy

Hi All!
I think you just like to argue here. I am a woman and I always use ‘guys’for both sexes. Quit your bickering.
Let’s debate soemthing worth debating or perhaps we can actually simly learn from each other. It totally amazes me what people will say behind a keyboard.

I am now 2 weeks into outsourceing and find my person very gracious. She knows much more than I do at this point and I find I simply have to trust her for awhile. Its a $300 investment and I have spent much more on much less. I think its about letting go of the control. I took my training in Social Work and was employed in HR for many years. I did take lots of training and still am, so that I can know when things really go wrong, but I didnt get a college degree in computor sciences and I dont want to, but my person did!
We communicated often in the first week, since then I expect she is working on my business, and not spending her time telling me every step of the way. I would expect that of any person I hire for a job. She calls that being a team. I like that attitude.I think it is also about building a relationship and trust.

If I dont make money in 3 monthe, she and I will talk about that, its still a small investment for a job I cant and dont want to do.
Thanks for the opportunity John ( and Dan) .

Hello Steve,
You really have to stop using the diseased mindset of a Socialist.
Imagine this scenario. You make yourself “feel good” by employing only Americans,
or in my case English/Scottish or Irish workers. With a few noble exceptions, these are people who have lost the work ethic and think that the world owes them a living. Your own Government overloads you with ludicrous Health & Safety, Employment Law and other madcap rules making it almost impossible for you to employ your own Countrymen and Women.

The Internet and free, lightning-fast global communication, is changing the world
and doing it fast. The old business practices don’t work anymore !

Employing competitive -cost, outsourced labour means your earn a healthy profit. You pay your taxes, which helps feed hungry kids on welfare in your homeland! That’s a benefit in itself.

The alternative is no profit, you suffer a hefty loss. (You can forget break-even, it’s a myth invented by Socialists). You go bust, you employ no-one. Your customers shop around and buy cheaper elsewhere. Nobody benefits and you are on food stamps yourself. GET REAL !!!

“As previously mentioned, most people want to know about the “bennies” before they even consider the work to be done.

I blame it on the typical “union” attitude compared to an “entrepenurial” attitude….

It’s time for the whiners to stop and start contributing”

This post displays what can only be appalling ignorance of US labor history, as well as the present situation for US working families, or appalling callousness and disregard toward the sweat, heroism, and suffering of the people whose stories make up that history.

Next time you want to put workers on a lower level than entreprenuers, you ought to use your imagination a little. What fun would it be for us entreprenuers to get rich (?) if we couldn’t find workers to build quality homes, grow and pick our food, run our power plants, stock our stores, repair our cars, pave our roads, tend to our sick…

The “whiners” (which apparently encompasses all American workers who have the gall to try to get health care for themselves and their children, or some kind of retirement plan) have not only been contributing: they built and continue to build this country. Without the “whiners”, there would be no buildings, no factories, no transportation, no infrastructure at all, no services….no USA.

You need to read a bit of history before ranting against the audacity of workers who want to provide themselves with something above abject poverty, which is to say, above most non-union US jobs, which quite frankly, stink. I’d like to see you try to provide for a family in the US on $8 an hour or less with minimal or no benefits.

If you knew anything about our history, you’d realize that, if not for early union organizers, who risked and often lost life and limb to improve the hideous lot of workers, you probably wouldn’t have time to be a self-aggrandizing, complaining entreprenuer, unless you were lucky enough to be born into wealth. You’d be too busy working 16 hour days, 7 days a week for less than you need to survive, let alone get yourself a laptop.

You might be dying of blacklung in your 30s if you were a miner, or crushed by a log (like my maternal grandpa) if you worked in the blood smeared lumber industry.

I drove a truck for years, and without drivers like me, you would have gone without food, clothing, a place to live, etc; in short, I kept you alive. I’m one of the “whiners” that dared ask about benefits before signing on with a company. If I could have, I would have joined the Teamsters in a heartbeat; I have the unmitigated audacity to think I deserved a decent employment package for my 60 hours a week of providing you with survival needs and material comforts.

When my entreprenuering really pays off, I’ll be buying a nice, safe house for myself and one for my mom, built by union labor to withstand earthquakes, windstorms, etc. You can bet I won’t be crying about the union “whiners” that built it, especially when I survive the kind of natural disaster that causes 10s of thousands to perish in places like Mexico where labor has no rights, union organizers are sometimes shot by government goons (as they used to be in the US), and people live in buildings that collapse on them.

I respect non-union labor too; only a small percent of US labor is organized, hence the 30+ year decline in real wages, as corporate profits grew, but I don’t share your contempt for their desire for a decent wage with benefits, which is not a dirty word to someone with compassion for human beings, regardless of their class.

Unions aren’t to blame for the attitude of people wanting a better deal; they are a result of the natural desire we all have for a decent quality of life; something you seem to find offensive if coming from the working class.

In other words, by all means, hire who you want, and pay them enough for a decent life wherever they are. It happens to cost a lot more here, so it makes sense to hire Filipinos for the things they can do well for us, but it also makes sense to pay US workers many times that, and you ought to be grateful that people are willing to work for you at all; not moaning about the fact that they want what everybody wants: a decent life for themselves and their loved ones.

I like the outsourcing content on this blog, despite so much socialist and union content. I think some folks clicked a broken link from the NYT op-ed page.

Hi everyone,

I came across this blog post a couple days ago and read through all the comments (and as a lawyer, I admit I enjoyed ongoing debate). I reserved from making a comment because I see both sides. As a small biz owner myself, having affordable help is key to your success. And this country was built on small biz owners like us.

At the same time, I agree with Dave’s post and I worry about the future of our country. After all, we are a country of consumption and if all labor is outsourced out of the country, we won’t have money to consume. If you think about it the way I do, it’s a catch 22 situation. So I left this post, never intending on making a comment.

But today, I came across another blog post, totally unrelated to outsourcing. It was the story of an optometrist who is struggling because people come in to try on his eyeglasses, then get the style number so they can buy the same one online for 70-90% cheaper. After reading that, I immediately came back here to share my thoughts.

EVERYTHING is being outsourced. The internet has changed everything. We now have the ability to find whatever it is that we need for a lot less, thanks to the Internet. For those of you who advocate the evils of outsourcing, I ask you, have you ever resisted purchasing in-store because you could find it cheaper online? If so, think about that retail store. By not purchasing from them, they struggle too (even if it’s a large box office retail store like Best Buy), then they have to lay off workers. In essence, by not paying full retail, you are contributing (albeit indirectly) to the same turmoils that you say outsourcing labor creates.

Same goes for labor INSIDE of this country. I live in California, which has the highest employment costs in the country. Because we now have the ability to telecommute, instead of hiring California residents, you can hire virtual assistants in, say, Louisiana or South Carolina where the cost of living is much lower so their rates are much lower.

Whether we like it or not, it’s here to stay. And it can be applied to all industries. In fact, the legal industry is also a victim of it. Quite simply, the Internet has shifted people’s mindsets to pay less for higher quality. And whether you’re an entrepreneur or an employee, you will ultimately have to face that reality, hopefully sooner than later.

I still worry about the fate of this country, but like it or not, it’s just the way it is. Just my $0.02. Regardless, to all you small business owners (and someday wannabes), I applaud your fearlessness, vision, tenacity, ambition, drive, passion, and everything else that makes a successful entrepreneur!

-Michelle

(P.S. Kudos, Mr. Jonas, on having a FTC disclaimer. You’d be surprised how many blogs and sites still don’t have one.)

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I'm so itching to get into this debate..but I'm going to restrain myself and simply say that there are two sides to look at.
If the Steves of this world are walking the talk and carefully restricting any products they buy to made in America (or whatever country they live in) then absolutely they should stick up for their beliefs and post comments wherever they want even if it's not relevant to what people want to read on the site.
Where were their clothes and electronics made? And did they check that they were they made by people (wherever in the world) that were being paid a fair wage for the living expenses in their country? Why should rules apply for those of us in a well off country and not in others?
If they buy products from Asia or another "third world" country whether online or in a retail store then they are indirectly doing the exact same thing as outsourcing and they should go and throw all their non American made products in the bin and buy all home grown and see how much money they have left to support their families after that.
OK so not completely restrained…
Anyway, thanks Jonas for opening up this opportunity, I love the global economy and this sounds like a great idea, particularly if the person I find is the best person for the job, it's not about being cheaper for me, I'm in a country where English is not the native language and I think I have a better chance of finding someone who can do the job overseas.

Hi John,
reading Kevin's comments above, could you please outline what the interview process is when you hire someone in the Philippines using this process? I've always had a fairly formal interview process when I've hired local people before and it's a hard enough decision to make when you've met them face to face a couple of times. Presumably you don't just hire based on a cv so how do you manage it? Via skype or similar, or just phone calls? Also in your training do you give any idea as to how long a particular task should take based on whether they are experienced or new to the task? thanks
Kerry

Hi Kerry
I have successfully found some people in the Philippines to help me in my online business. I would offer this advice in the interview process – make sure that they can not only write English but that they understand it too. I chatted with them on messenger services, I asked for samples of their work and I also built a relationship with them too. I make it very plain that there is a probationary first month for us to get used to working together and to see how it goes.
Don't be in a hurry to take the first person you meet – make sure they have the skills for the job you want them to do. They are lovely people and great workers. I pay them well and they are a huge part of my business.
Thank you to John for providing the support to become an outsourcer and remove the stress of trying to do it all alone. Way to go!
Bev

To an extent I agree with you. But, be fair and look at the other side of the coin. Not everyone is able to afford the the "greedy" fees, charges, prices that our own folks at home wants to throw at us. And we would all like to get ahead without feeling like we are spending our last buck to do so. If the philippines, or india, or anywhere else for that matter is the answer … i say why not?

I hired 2 people already through bestjobs and onlineph. Yes Some of them have issues, they are not perfect just like us. The first one started but contact me 2 days later. He said he have black out in his country, but the truth is he doesn't have a computer at home so they use internet cafes to do their work. I set the ground rules first along the way as I progress and learn from my mistakes. I require them to have a generator and submit work progress report every day with the work itself and maintain communication during their office hours. I am fair but strict on the rules. I will give them a warning first if they dont comply and then I lay them off if they continue their lack of work. I start right now with a 3rd person and so far so good. I dont blame john for anything.

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I praise him for sharing this program with us for leveraging our time to the fullest. I used to do things on my own and I find it very frustating. You have to learn the materials and understand it and implement it and test it and still can get it wrong. This takes so much of my time that your business will go nowwhere. I let my guy do the marketing campaign while I focus on the selling part. There is nothing wrong with the program it is how you selectively screen your employees by simply giving them a call and interview them with the rules and procedures and if they are willing to comply. It is simple, don't make it hard for yourself. Once you get a strong person on your team, it is a blessing in disguise
I love delegating work to other people, it makes me feel great. Now I have time to go to the gym while they do all the grunt work
good luck to all
kwok

I'm eager to get going hiring, but I wish It didn't cost money to use onlinejobs.ph or bestjobs.ph. These should be free services. There should be other ways to monetize the sites without forcing us newbies to pay for it. I'm not usually a complainer, but it's hard on those of us who don't have much money starting out. I'm all for working smart for ones money, but it would be nice if a guy could start using these hiring sites for free.

Perhaps i'll just have to create my own free outsource website one of these days (including free communication between client and entrepreneur).

I appreciate your great tips on here.

Regardless of where my "increase" comes from: outsourcing or local, I know one thing. The more I make, the more I spend and that makes the economy run smoother. My local restaurants are always happy to see me come in with my 6 kids.

One last thought: Your mind is like a garden and bad weeds will grow. You need to get rid of them asap or they will run the garden. Let us all concentrate on the beautiful and positively contribute to a better world. We CAN make a difference. Thanks.
Regards,
Francois

After reading the comments I could not help but to add my own 2 cents worth. I am new to this scene having been on board for 10 days. IN that time I have advanced with John's advice which thus far has proven to be dead on and most factual. In fact his service is more comprehensive than I really expected which provides great value for the money way better than what I have seen constantly being pumped out by Gurus. I appreciate John for his lack of hype that is so common in the IM world. In fact the customer service has been absolutely incredible compared to any other product I have ever purchased so much of which have but one concern how to hit your credit card once that is done then the F*** Y** attitude comes out for support. One product I recently bought I waited three times longer in days and never even got a response until I canceled that is, than the time to get a response from Dan measured in hours not days. What a pleasant change.

On the social do gooder attitude expressed by a few people here lets join the real world of what works and what does not work in today's world rather than ancient history. I as most that use these services simply could not and would not even do it on US standards of salary it simply would not happen whereas under this model it makes it possible. AS an interesting comparison my first website I put up was done by Canadian and US workers who I paid thousands to. So did I get my moneys worth?? Not even close I paid thousands for a final product, a pretty website that sucked because it just did not work in the real world of SEO, so in the end I shelled out over $7,000 for what was really worth maybe $500. Screw supporting someone's inflated lifestyle what about workers providing value to the buyer of their service. None of these overpaid idiots performed that simple task plain and simple. How long can you continue with this attitude before it bites you in the ass and a customer like me revolts. I for one could care less about maintaining a so called status quo without performance.

This is just like GM, well the writing has been on the wall for 30 years yet they refused to get with it in the real world now we see their reward for that. Contrary to the other delusional views here the Unions have and are destroying what built Canada and the US. You simply can't pay an idiot putting part A with part B these ridiculous salaries for what they do, when there is competition out in the world that are not so entitled! Worse yet others that do a better job and produce a better product. Hence GM and its unions are getting exactly what they deserve! Sorry cry me a river there is a big difference in supporting your family and being entitled to a free ride yet with miserable job performance!

I sure won't have any trouble sleeping at night for providing a Filipino family a good standard of living based on their standards not mine or some papered union employee. In fact I won't have any trouble paying them bonuses based on good work done when that work produces the desired results!

Hi Abhik

These guys are pretty good. For less than $400 a month I have great content on my sites. My sites have beautiful headers & background.

I do not have 40hrs a week to work on my business with my new born and toddler and taking care of the house, but the past month have been a blessing. I have not fully given them the rope for my business but I will after three or four months.

As with everything you have to find the right person but most of them are very honest and loyal as John says.

Hey John,
I have hired 2 GUYS (both women LOL) from the Philippines and I am very happy with their work.
One does all of my content writing which I do revise and send back to her so that she can see what changes have to to made and why.

The second has much more experience then I had even dreamed of.
She has set up an entire mini – net for me within 2 wks time and has done all of the SEO stuff that goes along with it.

As far as the time difference and communication, we have 2 standing appointments to meet on skype weekly. The first is at 10am her time on tues (7pm my time here in AZ) the 2nd is Fri 10am her time (thurs evening 7pm my time).

Her english is excellent and she is always a couple of steps ahead of what I need her to do.
My writer writes 1 article and 1 blog posts per day which (works 10 hours per week).
I am very happy and want to say thanks for helping me to find them.

I work full-time and could not afford to hire anyone here in the US and am happy to help anyone in this world have the chance at employment and a life.
Michelle

All the information that I get from your blog is more clear than any where else. Keep up the good work

Here's my opinion… everyone has their favorite charity, and their decisions are usually respected. The fact is that there are MANY great organizations here in the States that are helping our less fortunate citizens. Since I've spent extensive time in the Philippines, I have fallen in love with that country and I'm proud to spend money there, either at a resort or from a street vendor. Also have a couple of kids I'm sponsoring personally and have plans to use any extra money in the future to add to that list.

I remember years ago I ran a promo for the current business donating most of it to the 911 victims families. I caught some grief from one of my clients about that. So instead of getting upset, I've realized that everyone has their favorites and thier own opinions and I respect that while going forward with what I feel in my heart is helping some very needy people.

This is not meant to offend you, only to express my opinion. Wish you the best!

Wow, interesting comments

@Steve – for the above guy that is complaining about all the outsourcing going on in the States. The US is not the center of the universe and many countries are facing the same issues and concerns.

Suggestion – Stop whining and adapt and get to work instead of reading all the forums and blogs.

Here's my advice – Learn, Change and adapt – I knew nothing about SEO or what it was just over 3 years ago. But today because I read and digested information from all over, I can hold a conversation with the best SEO's in today's market period.

John is providing an avenue for people to out source some or all of your work. If you don't like it, then don't read his information. You can simply close the window on your browser.

I like healthy debates, but there is a lot of whining going on about how unfair life is. Life is about challenges and obstacles. That's what makes it so interesting. We all have challenges, but the ones that succeed, get on with the job.

For example, how many here spend more than 1 hour a day reading forums and blogs?

Probably many of you.

Suggestion – stop spending so much time reading if you know SEO etc and how to do the stuff. If you don't know, then continue reading and researching the website for the information you need.

Anyways, good insights John and that was my 15 minutes of reading a blog today.

Michelle, did you find them through using the replacemyself.com service?

I agree, it is good to hire people and provide them a chance at employment and improve/contribute to their lives.

John,
I haven't taken the time to thank you for putting the platform together.
I have several e-mails like this from my guy in the ph.
It has been a valuable learning experience myself. I have learned more
about my management style, patience, and so many other factors which
are so important when you are dealing with your team, that I could have
never gotten anywhere else. At first I took it as tuition money spent in
my own time management and organizational skills. Though I always
defaulted to sending them to the training program you have inside replacemyself.
I did have to fire a girl and came to terms with another one – He was finishing school
and did not have time to work the hours I needed him to work. However, I have found
a right hand to go to guy that doesn't know everything but gets everything done (if you
know what I mean) This guy is resourceful as anyone out there and I have come to the
point of asking him for advice on certain things – The guy is solid. I also follwoed your
advice and asked him to find me someone else to expand the team – within a few hours
I had a few more people to interview and finally added a second person whom I trust
just because of the friendship this new person has with my to go to guy.
Enough said.
Thanks a lot.
manu.

John,

I had one Filipino working for me, she always did everything quickly, but it seemed that she would jumble up the trainings. For instance she backlinked all of the backlink sites that she created to all of my websites without any real idea what the mini-net idea is. This was after 2 months. It created more work for me than was worth to keep her, because she just made to many mistakes like that, I needed to micro-manage what she did.

Is my kind of experience to be expected, should I have been more patient, or should I just find someone else?