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John,
I have purchased the nano bloggers pdf via your link.
Trying to listen to the mp3 and download the transcript, but nothing happens – I cannot reach the files

Dany

John, I quit reading after the third sales page. He said “no long sales letter”. Well, how many “next pages” does he expect prospects to wade through before we see the price.

Sorry but I was put off by the seemingly continuous next, next, next. This whole launch was just to vague & evasive for my taste.

john dont seem to able to download the mp3 file can you check it works

Hi Thanks for grilling Peter for us.
I see a real money making opportunity here BUT…

I see a number of Major problem with using this system that could get you into deep trouble.

1. Using somebody elses’s image. (Illegal)
2. This system is basically a FLOG system which the FTC will ban you….and possibly issue a court summons on.

- This system is very black hat in my opinion.
What does Peter say on these issues? Surely he has to at least declare he is using a false avatar and is receiving money from his blog (Min FTC regulations, 1st December 2009)

Hi John,
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I bought the product after reading the sales letter and listening to your video interview.
It is refreshingly positive and I know can be the basis for a sound business. So much so that I am systamatically un-subscribing to the majority of the IM emails I get.
To make this work is going to require focus, just like any business. But the big difference is the lack of, or deliberate omission of needless hype. Facts and a plan. Success!
Best regards, and thanks.
Richard.

If you can’t download the audio, try and right click on the link and select “save as” or “save link as” and then save it to your desktop.

John

Man it is so funny to watch everyone going all crazy about the FTC. Now I am not saying anyone should openly flaunt things and such, but really do you actually think that this system is going to attract the FTC to you and get you busted? Come on dudes.

The whole FTC thing came about because of BIG TIME scammers out there who were making big bucks from shady offers. That is who the FTC is going after and not the little guys.

But now we have IM dudes making buck off selling fear of the FTC It is too friggin funny.

I think this product has more integrity than a many others on the market and frankly I want to give it a shot. Conversations are a lot better than trying to beat G with PPC or SEO.

@David:
1. Using someone elses image is not illegal. Just don’t use a copyrighted image.
2. It’s not a flog system which the ftc will ban you for. They’re after bad testimonials and after material relationships where a recommendation is made and not disclosed. Simply disclose it.
3. There’s nothing black hat about what he’s doing.

Thanks for letting us know about this one John. I appreciate it.

I will build my first ones, and then look forward to the outsource system he mentions.

Happy Holidays!

“2. This system is basically a FLOG system which the FTC will ban you….and possibly issue a court summons on. ”

Uh….this system isn’t even close to being a flog. And can we dial it back a bit on the FTC hyperbole?

Having said that, I think this product is a bit weak for what it costs.

I agree with Kevin, too many people worried about the FTC, which for the rest of us may not be a bad thing.

As for this course, I’ve seen Peters other “programs” and the only negative thing I can say is that his method of speaking, “uh huh, uh huh, uh huh, uh huh, uh huh” is clear indicator that this course is not 100% verified. Meaning, buy if you want, but it’s not what it is supposed to be, weak material.

@Steve – If it’s weak material, get your money back.
I personally thought it was amazing material. Possibly the best system I’ve ever seen online.

Also, if it’s not good for you, here’s my personal guarantee.

What is the $24 piece of software that Peter talks about on the call?

@Phil – The software he is talking about is SocialBot from Incansoft. Just Google it and you’ll find the link.

I have to agree with John; this is a very great product and Peter’s approach is something you don’t see taught by all these so called gurus out there. Either they just don’t know about this method, or they don’t want the masses finding out about it.

I can’t wait to try and implement this system. I just wish I had a live case study as an example right now. I have a few questions that weren’t discussed in the manual. I think Peter is putting something together but it won’t be available for a couple more weeks.

I would also like to know how Peter outsources this method. I’m assuming Peter has more than 100 sites and if it takes him at least 20 minutes a day of upkeep for each site, than there is no way he does it all himself, there is just not enough time in the day. If you want to get to that kind of level, you’re going to have to know how to outsource it. So that’s another thing I look forward to hearing from Peter about.

Overall; great product and I would recommend anyone with an open mind to give it a try. It does go against conventional marketing, so it’s probably almost better if you’re a a complete newbie and know nothing about traditional Internet marketing.

“I personally thought it was amazing material. Possibly the best system I’ve ever seen online.”

Really? You must not get out much, lol.

“I have to agree with John; this is a very great product and Peter’s approach is something you don’t see taught by all these so called gurus out there.”

You’ve never had anyone tell you to create a blog about something and blog about it before? You’ve never had anyone tell you to promote your blog via the usual channels, aka social bookmarking, forum participation, twitter, etc? You’ve never had anyone tell you to research a subject and write about it in your own words before? I’ll just assume you don’t get out very much either then.

There’s nothing particularly innovative or unique about his approach….kinda like the long sales letter he subjects people to after telling them he doesn’t like long sales letters. But if it’s new to you, congrats.

Don’t get me wrong, in theory it sounds like a decent plan. I’m just turned off by all the “wow, this stuff is so new and original, it’s the greatest system ever” nonsense. It’s not. And for $97, it should be more detailed, with more examples, and a working nanoblog backing up his claims would be nice as well. Oh wait, that’s right….he doesn’t believe in step-by-step teaching….possibly because he doesn’t know the steps himself.

Hi Thanks for the replies…..
Please note as i said before, I like this product ideas BUT I have to disagree with some of the above comments.

Peter is blatantly using the flog “idea! system but via passive communication. He teaches you to use false persona, with false recommendations, with false images, with false conversation starters…c’mon man this is what it is. I don’t mind trying this but don’t tell me this process is not Black hat. They’ve been teaching this stuff over at BHW for years.

As for the legal use of images. The fact is i would be very upset if you used my picture on a blog profile. Think about this John…I could copy your image above with your child and do this…would you be happy with that? Thought not..That alone is BH.

Finally if there is a FTC declaration on the call to action then that is fine, but i think Peter has missed this out in his game plan. This is not a good move if a newbie is coming into this game.

As I said before I think I might give this a shot…just lets be clear what we are doing here…and be honest with yourself first.

@David – Have you ever heard of iStockPhoto.com? You can buy rights to photos and not worry about copyright issues. No one is saying go to some random website and just copy and paste an image. You can buy photos and have exclusive rights to it, so problem solved.

And as far as false persona and recommendations; do you actually think that every ad, every presell, or review page you see, were created by people who actually used the product? lol come on mann don’t be that naive.

People market products they’ve never used before in their life. I don’t know one marketer who has used every product they promote. You are not forcing anyone to buy anything. You are simply putting a product in front of people who would find it useful.

@David

The “Flogs” that were all over the place before the FTC cracked down on them contained false blog comments, false testimonials, and a forced continuity program that people found was virtually impossible to cancel. That’s how you draw the wrath of the FTC.

Peter’s concept contains none of the elements that got the Flogs in trouble. It DOES contain elements of the Flogs, but NOT the ones that got them into trouble.

With Peter’s concept, as Brent mentioned, you can use stock photos that you own the rights to. You’re not going to Facebook and picking random people’s faces.

Any comments left on your nanoblog will be real. Therefore, any positive comments about the product you recommend will be real. If you earn a commission from the product you recommend, simply disclose that.

If you were from the FTC, what would you possibly see as a violation? If Shaq recommends Icy Hot, but has never used it, is Shaq in violation of FTC policies? Is Icy Hot? No and no.

Nobody is listening to what I am trying to get over here.

I have been online since 1996 & so have some experience in what I say to back me up. I like this system…I like the new approach to conversation led sales…its just that I am saying this IS BLACK HAT MARKETING. Just get over it!

I have NO problem doing LEGAL black hat marketing…have you?

Go to Black Hat World (Seo Forum) and see the hundreds of discussions using false persona’s, following conversations across Web 2.0 properties for keyword – product – sales & gaming it with false Id’s, emails, “trusted” url’s etc. It’s one of the oldest marketing tricks in the world.

I will say no more as at least I have been honest here and called a spade a spade.

Enjoy your BH projects. Live Long & Prosper

(PS I am not a troll & that is why I will not add any more here to John’s Excellent & honest blog.)

To use the system successfully, we have to engage conversations in forums a lot. Then we have to know stuffs we promote pretty good so that we can engage conversations.

If we want to promote any products, how we are able to do that? We can’t know everything. Time is limited.

If outsourcing, we might need to hire many people.

Any comments?

@David – You’ve been online since 1996 or you’ve been marketing online since 1996? If you’ve been marketing that long online and were questioning Peter about “legal use of images” and never knew you could buy exclusive rights to photos, than maybe you’re a lot further behind in the marketing game than you should be.

What makes these techniques different from any other marketing as far as using a different persona? There are top copywriters, like Gary Halbert for example, who use to write copy for womens products acting like he was a women. That’s part of marketing. It’s about finding out what your market wants and giving it to them; period! You aren’t forcing anything down their throats. In fact you are helping them. If you know what there problems are and you have the solution to their problems, do you really think they care if your name is really Mike or Jane? No, all they care about is whats in it for them and what you can do for them. That’s it.

So if you think these techniques can be considered Blackhat just because you are using a different persona for every site, than ALL Internet Marketing can be considered Blackhat. Because in almost every form of marketing, the marketer is pretending to be someone they are not.

@Paula – Yeah you need to know the market, but if you setup your email like Peter explains with all the news in your niche coming to your inbox every day, than it shouldn’t take more than 2 days to really get to know your niche and what their concerns are. I had a guy I worked with last year, a 7 figure earner, who said the same thing.

But the daily work you’ll have to do to keep up with these sites is something I would like to know how Peter does as well. Something you would definitely have to outsource. Once you have 20 or more sites, you won’t have time to keep up with them daily all by yourself.

Thanks for your great comments, Brent. I believe the system works with implementation and efforts!

I am not a good communicator, nor don’t like to write. Not sure whether I am a good fit for the system?

Any thoughts?

Hey Paula,

Yeah I think you’ll be ok. Remember you’re not coming up with the material all by yourself, all you have to do is summarize in your own words what each story is about. That shouldn’t be too hard with practice.

The best advice anyone could give you is too just try it out. Make an effort and you might just surprise yourself with the results. A lot of people like to start complaining that a technique isn’t going to work before they even give it a try. They never take action and that’s why they’ll never make it online. So throw a couple sites up and see what happens.

On the program it talks about getting theme from wordpress do you think we can use artisteer as well. I hope that it will intergrate the same way. Has anyone tried it yet. Please let me know.

I’ve been online (selling stuff) since the Compuserve days and while I don’t frequent black hat circles at all… I wouldn’t consider this black hat at all…

People use pen names ALL THE TIME in writing and marketing. Or use ghostwriters to publish writing as their own (wouldn’t that be unethical as well then?)

Plus as Brent suggests, you can purchase rights to images on istockphoto. If you’re still weary, buy an image and have a caricature made up of that person’s likeness and use that in your marketing and “branding”.

What IS illegal is to create a fake persona and lie about results you’ve had or use testimonials that talk about results from a product you’re promoting (unless you can prove the results are “typical”).

Peter’s model is nothing ultra unique… It’s trend blogging and socializing your website. It’s just that he’s systematized it so it’s easier for people unfamiliar with the model to get up and running.

Anyway, I’ve been using a somewhat similar model on a couple of sites for a while and make more than the minimum (Peter talks about) on each site. And I did a case study a couple of years back on trend blogging where I drove 1000 uniques a day within 7 days of starting the blog… and back then I didn’t even use any of the tools that are in existence now.

All the best,
/Steven

@Alan – I suppose you can use Artisteer. Another option to the theme that Peter talks about (which by the way is a very good one), is the new “Builder Theme” by iThemes (just go to ithemes.com to learn more about it).

It’s less money (and gives you full developer’s license for the price) and will do pretty much everything the other one does.

/Steven

Thanks steve for your help I really don’t have the $165 dollars that the Theme wordpress charges although it is a great theme to start out it is kind of expensive for me. Thanks again

Do you think me and Alan could successfully build our nanobloggers sites with a site builder? Something like Affiliate Genie? I would really appreciate your opinion on this.

Many thanks,
Renee

My previous question is for Steven.

So, how about someone show us a live nanoblog that is actually making money, or at least generating traffic. Sounds like a good case study for someone to put together.

@Kevin – have you ever successfully done this?
Have you ever followed a system like Peters?
Have you made money from something like this?
Or have you just bought lots and lots of products and think you “get it” but not implemented it?
I can understand why you don’t appreciate what he’s done. Go back to the warriors forum and “help” people there.

John

@Renee – DON’T use a site builder. You can, and it will look the same, but it won’t have the same effect.
There’s a reason Peter (and me) use Wordpress. It does things for you to help you market your site without you even knowing.
It will put links out there and bring in traffic for you without you having to do anything.
There’s no reason to do more work than you have to do.
Use Wordpress!

John

@Renee – I agree with John. This won’t work properly with a site builder.

Then you might as well use Blogger… (although I don’t recommend that either). However, it can work.

/Steven

@Jim

I did a case study a couple of years ago using just a fraction of what Peter teaches in his course using 100% free tools (no automation like Peter teaches) on a totally fresh blog (which was hosted on Blogger).

You can actually read about the results here (no opt-in or anything): http://supersimpletraffic.com/casestudy

/Steven

Hey John,

I know you said you were looking to get started right away with Peter’s system, how are your results so far? Are you getting a bunch of traffic?

Thanks!

@Steven – it seems to me the Builder theme is $127 so not enough cheaper to bother with.

/Richard

Regarding using Artisteer, I use it for many of my sites and if you already have skill with it, you can certainly make a template that looks very much like the sample one Peter shows.

John is right is saying that using any other template will NOT have the same affects. Wordpress is a great platform when it comes to SEO purposes; Google loves it.

Peter recommended that template for a reason, because it works. If people use any other template and don’t get the same results, don’t come back and complain that Peter’s strategy don’t work. Follow the plan laid out for you.

I just can’t understand why you would even want to deviate from Peter’s model unless you know EXACTLY why you are doing it.

If it’s the $164 for the Thesis theme, you are not thinking big enough.

If it that you are unfamiliar with Wordpress, you better go learn Wordpress. Seriously.

Just do exactly what Peter has laid out. It’s quite step by step in his book.

Hi I am not going to reply to the specific threads questioning my comments , I am grateful for the positive communication…BUT Please read the following from the Istock terms…

Standard License Prohibitions

(a) Prohibited Uses. You may not do anything with the Content that is not expressly permitted in the preceding section or permitted by an Extended License. For greater certainty, the following are “Prohibited Uses” and you may not:

use or display any Content that features a model or person in a manner (a) that would lead a reasonable person to think that such person uses or personally endorses any business, product, service, cause, association or other endeavour; or (b) except where accompanied by a statement that indicates that the Content is being used for illustrative purposes only and any person depicted in the Content is a model, that depicts such person in a potentially sensitive subject matter, including, but not limited to mental and physical health issues, social issues, sexual or implied sexual activity or preferences, substance abuse, crime, physical or mental abuse or ailments, or any other subject matter that would be reasonably likely to be offensive or unflattering to any person reflected in the Content, unless the Content itself clearly and undisputedly reflects the model or person in such potentially sensitive subject matter in which case the Content may be used or displayed in a manner that portrays the model or person in the same context and to the same degree depicted in the Content itself;

So a BIG disclosure is necessary it seems?

A couple of thing’s that are being missed here I think.

One, the FTC is complaint driven. They don’t have people out hunting down stuff.

Second, while Peter recommends using a picture…if you have a concern about it, either don’t use one or pick markets where you can use your own.

It’s entirely possible you could use a model from the product itself…providing you got permission.

If everything in this world is to be followed strictly, no single person will be spared the rod…

Follow who and what you please, with a little of your own judgement…

There is a piece of software that Peter recommends you use to do some bookmarking called SocialBot. It normally costs around $25 dollars.

When you go to the checkout page to purchase it and you see the place to put a coupon, put in ‘SANTA’. It has to be in all capital letters in order for you to get the holiday discount.

If you put in that code, the software costs around $7 dollars.

Merry Christmas everyone!

Hi Jonas,

Do you offer an outsourcing service to build a thesis wordpress blog using the nanoblogging system?

Do you offer an outsourcing service that creates ebook for any niche using the nanoblogging system?

Pls email me at aimtogetrich@gmail.com for your quotations.

Winson

@Winson – No, I don’t offer a service like this.

@John – I’d be real interested to hear what kind of results you’ve gotten so far from implementing Peter’s system?

I’m going to start building a couple sites and would really love to hear about results from someone other than the product owner.

@Brent:
Like I said in my post and in the audio, the system Peter is using is the same system I’ve been using for the past 2.5 years (except his current implementation is better than what I’ve been doing). It’s the system I’ve had my GUYS use to make the site that makes me $10,000 – $15,000 per month. The same system that built websites that make me between $100 – $5000/month.

Since Peter’s product came out, I haven’t had time to implement everything on a new website and see results, because I’m still working on the sites that are already generating good income. We’re implementing it on our current, existing sites, so it’s going to be very hard to say what my results are on those sites that are already working.
I’m in the process of working with my GUYS to implement another site. As I see results, I’ll post them.

John and anyone else from this thread,

Great information in your post. I’m researching for my first nanoblogger site and i’m finding the info from omgili slightly skews towards men more than women.

I have a twitter account with several thousand followers in it and I wanted to use that with the system instead of setting up a new account.

But if i were to create a persona using a man would it not be good for me to use my personal twitter account (female)?

thanks

Hey John,

I ignored the first email you sent regarding nanobloggers, although I typically read everything you send because in my experience you only recommend products that really work.

The 2nd email got my attention and I was thrilled to find the program was under $100. I don’t know Peter, but I found his “sales letter” to be helpful and actually quite brief. I think the page break to shift to the next page was brilliant. It provided the information I needed, and gave the appearance of brevity. =)

If he’s truly available for questions and support as he implied in his sales letter, it will be well worth the money.

Thanks for all the comments above. They were actually helpful to me and I look forward to connecting with those of you that purchased in the forum!

Best, Kate

I’ve read through most of the comments above, and I’m thankful to those that posted for their insight.

I’m interested to know if the system requires you to lie about your experience with the product you’re promoting, or about experiences you haven’t really had. I don’t mind giving a fake “persona” name so much… I think that’s good for protection, but I won’t lie and say I’ve used a particular product and it’s great, etc.

I might have a different take on ethics (FCC or no FCC) than most, but I figure if I wouldn’t want it done to me, I shouldn’t do it to others. If I was a person (naive to IM tactics) looking around the web for answers, and I read a “review” for a product where the person whom I’ve now come to trust (by reading their blog) is now recommending a product he/she has used, and I buy that product and it turns out that the person was lying about using the product… I would feel used (weather the product was good or not, but especially if not)! I think anyone would. Now, if that person just used a fake name, I don’t see that as such a big deal… I wouldn’t mind much at all.

So, does Peter’s system require you to lie about your personal experiences, with the product or otherwise, to get the HIGHEST POSSIBLE level of success?

Thanks in advance,

Eric

No matter how much traffic your site get, if there is no conversion, then there is no money.

How nanoblogger can help to get better conversions with its landing page?

@Abby – Don't just use your existing twitter account because it has thousands of followers. The point of this is to have targeted followers. Unless those followers are interested in what you're about to ask them to buy, it won't work.

Thanks for putting up this call.
Some great information there.

[...] the sales process…it’s part of nanoblogging) (here’s my guarantee) After buying, listen to the bonus audio (it’s friggin’ [...]

Peter's system doesn't require one to "lie" about his personal experience. In nanoblogging what you are essentially doing is acting as an "internet news reporter" and offering your opinion on the relevant (to the niche) news you find online. The idea is to get people to comment on your NB. This activity gets the search engines' attention, and you get natural rankings for your niche keyword. You strategically place your affiliate offfer/product at the very top of the page, or adsense block. That's it.

For persona photo, if we don't want to use our own regular photo, perhaps we can use make ups, or some kind of disguise for review, maybe we can use other people reviews? and add something like "this is the kind of feature I really like for a …. product!" this is just a raw idea… I mean, there is always a workaround for almost anything.